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Breach Preachers

'Breach' of faith: Do the experts have it wrong about the Old Inlet breach?

Am I the only one who finds it strange that the same voices that are proclaiming that the Great South Bay must have the vital flushing and cleaning action that the new breach provides are the same ones that say the breach has NO effect on bay-front water levels?

How can they have it both ways? If the breach at Old Inlet is large enough to clean and change salinity levels in the whole bay it must be letting a significant amount of water in and out.

Is it unreasonable to assume this water, flowing in a direct link from Great South Bay to Atlantic Ocean (Something neither the Fire Island nor Moriches Inlet does), has SOME effect on bay-front water levels?

Isn’t at least a part of the moderating effect that a barrier beach provides lost when some of that barrier is lost?

The south shore people who have experienced unprecedented flooding since Sandy have a right to feel skeptical when told there is NO correlation between the breach and the extreme tides.

Dr. Flagg and his charts are impressive, but scientists, even good ones, have been known to make mistakes and often disagree on data interpretation.

I know the recent meetings have been very well attended by pro-breach groups; the flooding victims are less organized and too exhausted to attend.

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JJ kayak April 12, 2013 at 06:19 PM
It was windy the other day and one of my friends opened the window at a 5 inch crack and it was too much for him to take...He was about to close and I said dont close it, it dosen't make a differance. He looked at me and with a delayed reaction said, I get it now, your right. When the wind blows SE with hi tides ,even worse with full moons,we cant handle the fast surge that NOT so little breach creates. Our wet lands are over saturated and uncomfortable new paths are created. It's not the cause of all flooding but to say it has NO effect is wrong.
GW96 April 12, 2013 at 08:26 PM
JJ did that open window blow any wind into a house on the opposite side of the bay and did it blow any wind into any houses 35 miles West of it? Nobody is saying it has NO affect, there is a great affect, it is cleaning and flushing that localized part of the bay....and that is all. I will continue to trust data by top experts and scientists instead of the super scientific open window analogy.
Frank April 12, 2013 at 09:33 PM
it is a known fact that Nassau County has been destroying the Western Bays since the 1970s. In 1972 the EPA wrote that the dumping of waste into the Western Bays is not feasbile unless there is adequate ocean flushing. Now we got one courtesy of Sandy. I say do not waste this opportunity. With cleaner waters maybe the shellfishing industry can recover...
JJ kayak April 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM
Hi Mike, bottom line is I see the surge results, so do the people in patchouge and mastic when the rollers come across from that breach during certain conditions.. Sorry you cant see it 35 miles west .Big fan of science my self, so far they are wrong about it getting smaller. I dig the flushing myself and instead of wasting millions to close it a channel controlled by a sluice gate would be the way to go for all of us. Every body wins. You can go to the Babylon Patch about the breach were Rich H makes the case for this and does so well. On another note did any body read the NY-Times on the breach last week and how the salinity change can bring in other species not good for the bay and the example was the star-fish. It's all very interesting . Hope we can find the right balance. Take care.
Lee April 13, 2013 at 02:36 AM
Those of us who don't live on the water DO feel badly about the suffering of storm victims. However, many of us believe that rebuilding in these flood zones is throwing good money after bad. Climate change and melting sea ice will raise the level of the ocean and this will raise the level of ALL coastlines including those living on the G.S. Bay. I don't think that you can fight the rising water level and it seems to me that the "man who CONTINUES to build his house on the sand" is the man whose mantra is "Deny Deny Deny".

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