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Which Roads are the Most Dangerous in East Hampton Town?

Concerns with Old Stone Highway were raised after the death of Jeffrey Ahn on Saturday. Are there other roads that are of worrisome?

Following the tragic accident on Old Stone Highway in Amagansett that , concerns have been raised about that stretch of road. With no shoulder, many curves, and an embankment along the road, most agree it's a route that requires extreme caution, from both drivers and pedestrians.

Are there are other streets in the Town of East Hampton that are just as worrisome? Tell us where you avoid bicycling, jogging or walking the dog — whether it's just the summer or all year long. Are there streets you drive everyday that you find more dangerous than others? Any ideas how to make the roads better?

One thing is for sure: Once country roads have become main thorough-fares and well-traveled streets in the Town of East Hampton. Let's all be extra cautious out there on the roads this summer.

Lynne Scanlon June 27, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Intersection of Waterhole Road and Fenmarsh Road in Clearwater Beach. Both stop signs are routinely ignored and cars race through at 40 - 50 MPH. (Yes, I notified the Town Highway Department after the last election.) Recommendation: Keep the stop sign on Fenmarsh Road. Pull the stop sign on Waterhole Road. It's at the bottom of a hill and you can't see the sign until you have driven through it.
S.B. Bonacker June 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Oh man, nothing is more dangerous and scary to cross (as a car or pedestrian) than the 4-way intersection of Dunemere Lane/Buell Lane/James Lane/Montauk Highway in East Hampton. They have to do something about this which becomes a nightmare on the weekends. How about putting a traffic light there, folks!
cindy June 27, 2012 at 11:56 PM
Town Lane b/t Jenny's Path and Old Stone....bikers ride 2-3 abreast and it doesn't matter how slow you're driving, some of those blind curves are hell and god forbid you've got some Indy 500 wannabe coming in the opposite lane. Also, waiting to turn left onto Oakview from 3MH, as every idiot in the world illegally passes you on the left going 45-55 mph. Why aren't there daily/hourly speed traps here? Town would make a fortune!
cindy June 27, 2012 at 11:58 PM
sorry, meant passes you on the right...I get really worked up about this one as I wait to get high-speed rear-ended mutiple times a day.
Peter Sephton June 28, 2012 at 01:22 AM
Cedar Street has to be one of EH Town/Village's most dangerous highways. It's become part of the Northern Beltway for vehicles from the east, cutting out Main Street to head west. HUGE vehicles from Springs Fireplace Rd industries, twisting narrow lanes, fast speeds, NO shoulders. Potentially deadly.
bucky June 28, 2012 at 02:25 AM
Fort pond,church lane,3mileharbor rd,hog creek,woodbind,coopeise all of springs magor roads and cross ways the only sidewalks are springs fireplace but that stops at school street and Abrahams path Gardner's and only side walk on 3 mile harbor rd stops at the head of the harbor most of the road in East Hampton are dangerous
Springs Advocate June 28, 2012 at 02:54 AM
The sad fact is that the State DOT won't put a light anywhere until there is a fatality.
Mindy Smith June 28, 2012 at 11:14 AM
I agree with Bucky - all of Springs is horrible. You can't leave Springs without extreme danger. How can people try to "go Green" and use bikes to commute, if it isn't safe enough to do so? This topic drives me crazy! Montauk is a much better hamlet to ride/walk in, because the shoulders are so wide on the bigger roads, but the interior roads are just as bad as the rest of the Town. East Lake Drive is especially scary, even more so with the increased traffic that Rick's restaurant and the new "Moby Dick's" behind Rick's will generate this summer. Old Montauk Highway is one of the most desirable roads to travel, but you take your life in your hands there, as well. Traveling down into Northwest Woods is another area that seems to be a drag strip for adrenaline junkies....
Walter Noller June 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM
One could say any road with vehicles on it is dangerous any more. This has a lot to do with idiocy, ignorance and assumptions. Drivers have no clue how much they put at risk when they drive. The added conveniences and safety features in new cars only add to the fact you can't break the laws of physics. Because you own a SUV or similar vehicle doesn't give you the right to go "off road" to pass someone on the right and making up time for the frustration factor of slow traffic on the highway by going faster on residential roads but only helps to make this an issue that needs attention. Of course, driver courtesy has a direct relationship to road rage. One thing that people do that I find a crazy maker is when they make their problem the other drivers. Parked cars or bikes/pedestrians on your side of the road doesn't give you the right to use the oncoming lane to pass when there's oncoming traffic, nor does your nearing missing your turn-off give you the right to slam on brakes to make the turn, putting the car behind you at risk of a rear end collision. Don't make your problem mine.
Walter Noller June 28, 2012 at 12:34 PM
With years of teaching defensive driving to many large companies across the country, I can say with authority it is the human factor and lack of driving knowledge that makes things worse. Add to that is the fact our roads were okay when there was less traffic but they are no longer in line with the conditions that now exist. More cars, trucks, bikes and things that keep drivers entertained while driving all add to the risk. All this does not take away the responsibility town has for improving the conditions of our roads. If you look at the scene of the unfortunate accident in Amagansett, you will see there was no place a pedestrian could go to get off the street even if they wanted to. Sharp embankments and wooded sides precluded any way of avoiding the risk factor. While I believe most drivers need a good dose of knowledge in what they put at risk when they get behind the wheel, it is the responsibility of our government, local and otherwise, to provide safe passageways for vehicles and pedestrians. These are not "summer only" issues but factors that need to be addressed for the safety of all who use our roads and only exacerbated by the added population we have during the tourist season.
durell godfrey June 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM
middle lane and hither lane are dangerous because of the dappled sunlight and no shoulder. full of bikers and joggers, a driver's eyes can't adjust to the contrast from light to dark quickly enough to see into the shadows. bikers ride two abreast and joggers don;t wear reflective clothing. i avoid these lovely streets as a walker, or driver. there is just no room for error. not twisty and not fixable but easy to avoid.
lutheranliar June 28, 2012 at 01:52 PM
I love that this issue is getting some attention. I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that there are limits to what the government can do to make roads safe. All the traffic lights and stop signs in the world won't help if people don't take responsibility. Drivers need to slow down and pay attention. Bikers need to stay far to the right, riding in the same direction as cars. And walkers and joggers? PLEASE walk against the traffic.
S.B. Bonacker June 28, 2012 at 03:13 PM
One law that the town needs to pass should pass is regarding bikers - riding two abreast should be illegal and signs warning bikers about this should be posted everywhere. They will be subject to fines. Two weeks ago, when they had this huge bike race to Montauk (with thousands of riders) the roads were very dangerous for drivers. The bikers were riding 2-3 across, and when I beeped coming up behind them they just gave me the finger!!! I had to swerve into oncoming traffic several times just to avoid hitting them. Why can the town control this?
Laurie Posimato June 28, 2012 at 03:16 PM
Lets face it ... All the old country roads in Springs,Barnes Landing,Northwest..are all dangerous for walkers,joggers,bicyclists...and drivers. We all need to think about others...take a breath,be in the moment,slow down... And say a prayer for the Ahn Family
TTTT June 28, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Oh how about the five way at 114 and gingerbread lane and toilsome and buell la ext?
CUL8R June 28, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Who wants to see sidewalks and huge shoulders out here?! Sure the roads may be dangerous for bikers and pedestrians to commute on, but they don't have to walk/commute on those roads that are so narrow. Its a rare occasion when pedestrians and cyclists are even taking precautions for their own lives. They ride and walk/run on the incorrect sides of the roads, they walk/run/cycle in groups making it sometimes impossible to get past them in a vehicle then they flip you off if you drive close to them. Perhaps if the majority of pedestrians and cyclists could use more COMMON SENSE when on these so called "dangerous roads" it would be a little safer. PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT...PEDESTRIANS are to walk/run/jog AGAINST traffic, not with it!! Anyone on WHEELS - MUST ride single file and as close to the curb or as far to the right/shoulder as possible and must not interefere with the flow of traffic (See EH Town Code: 95-3(A) & (B))
bonacbabe June 28, 2012 at 04:23 PM
All country roads are dangerous and I think installing speed bumps will be the best solution.
Susa Stein June 28, 2012 at 06:24 PM
The worst, in my opinion of course, is crossing over from 114 at the library left onto Main St/27. And on any of these busy intersections noted, if there were 4-way stop signs where each other auto has right of way, that would save lights, time and become much safer. Sus
Maureen June 28, 2012 at 08:49 PM
Accobonac Rd is narrow with many twists and turns resulting in poor visibility when coming upon joggers,bicyclists etc. Long Lane and 2 Holes of Water as they join 114 is really dangerous. There is often so much traffic that people are impatient and take foolish chances to turn onto 114. There is a reason we have 30MPH rules in EH. go slower be safe.
Industry Interested June 29, 2012 at 07:44 PM
The entire stretch of 3MH right by Round Swamp. Cars flanking both sides of the road - you can't see to make a left onto 3MH, no matter which side of the road you're coming from. I think almost every road in East Hampton is seriously lacking a sidewalk/adequate shoulder for pedestrians. And it makes it really hard to 'share the road' with bicyclists when you've got a pickup riding your ass and another one barreling towards you at 20mph over the speed limit. Lack of traffic law enforcement is my main concern around here. How many times, IN THE HEART OF TOWN, do I watch somebody make a U-Turn right next to the "NO U-TURN" signs? If somebody would give drivers a reason to care, they might start paying a little more attention. In Sag Harbor (which, I know, is technically Southampton town) making a right turn onto 114 off of Jermain is pretty bad - it's easy to over-steer and over-correct. I've watched a few people nearly miss cars parked, cars approaching, and mailboxes (and I've seen those boxes taken out).
Morgan Duke Vaughan June 29, 2012 at 08:19 PM
My personal favorite as a pedestrian: The middle of EH Village! Watch visitors trying to figure out how to navigate walking across Newtown Lane at the intersection at Main Street. AND there's a light! Even with the walk signal, they have to have traffic cops there on the weekends. I'm stunned no one's been hit yet.

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