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Sloppy Tuna Claims Unfair Treatment from the Town Board

Employees show up at a town board work session to fight accusations of overcrowding and noise.

Wearing red T-shirts with American flags and the words, “tUnited We Stand,” about 100 employees and supporters of nightclub and restaurant attended Tuesday's East Hampton Town Board work session in Montauk, claiming the town has unfairly treated the business.

In a discussion which took an hour and a half, many spoke for and against the numerous violations they have received for noise and overcrowding.

“There seems to be an attitude that the Sloppy Tuna, which employs 39 locals out of 59 total employees, is a fly-by-night business that is not responsible,” said Kieran Conlon, an attorney representing the business.

He explained that the owners of the Sloppy Tuna, which opened Memorial Day of 2011, have spent “millions of dollars” renovating their property to meet the town standards, and also thousands of dollars in donations to local charities, including the Montauk Playhouse, the Montauk Indian Museum, Montauk Chamber of Commerce, the East Hampton lifeguards, and the Wounded Warrior Project.

“We’re continually being attacked by the town, and we are operating a legal business with the proper permits, which is zoned as a nightclub, and has been as such since the early 1970s,” Conlon said. “This is a safe, newly renovated building, and the owners are productive members of this community,” he said. “The owners want a fair playing field, yet the town has chosen to go to war with them.”

Conlon accused East Hampton Town Supervisor Bill Wilkinson of “hiding in the dunes outside the Sloppy Tuna to watch for possible violations.” But Wilkinson, who lives in Montauk, denied this, stating that he routinely drives around to check up on “all the nightclubs in Montauk,” not just the Sloppy Tuna.

Drew Doscher, an owner of the Sloppy Tuna, said he has spent “a few million” to renovate and add on handicapped sidewalks, a new roof, new upstairs area and deck, septic system, and improved patio, but that he recently received criminal violations for noise and overcrowding. He denied those charges, saying his place is allowed to hold 267 people, and that is checked each night with a “clicker,” and that the noise regulation allows up to 55 decibels, and he recently got a device to measure the decibels in his place.

John Behan, a former East Hampton town supervisor and State Assemblyman, whose son Jason Behan works as an assistant manager at the Sloppy Tuna, said he worked in this building 45 years ago, when it was called “The Pirate’s Den,” in the early 1970s.

“The Sloppy Tuna hasn’t changed that much…the second floor is still the prettiest place in town,” John Behan said. “When I worked there, there were no businesses on either side . . . now these neighbors are complaining about the noise, when it’s been a nightclub for 45 years," he said. "That’s like people moving right near a ranch and complaining about the smell of the horse shit.”

In response to several people suggesting Wilkinson is anti-business, he said, “I’ve been the biggest supporter of seasonal businesses here," he said, adding he had helped the former owner. "This has nothing to do with suppression of business," he said, "it has only to do with compliance, and we have also cited several other nightclubs in town with violations and fines.”

East Hampton Councilwoman Teresa Quigley said since she’s been in office she’s been “attacked mercilessly and barraged with complaints about noise in Montauk.”

“I’ve had it with the way people are not respectful in this community,” she said. It’s been a tourist community since the 1920s and I can’t help it if there is noise, but we can’t let it get out of control. We’re not interested in hurting businesses, but since they opened in 2011, the Sloppy Tuna has been cited more often with noise complaints.”

Frans Preidel, who lives directly behind the Sloppy Tuna, said he expected to live near the noise, if it was within the required 55 decibels, but that it often exceeds this level, sometimes to 95 decibels and higher.

But after the meeting, the owner said he recently bought and put in a volume control system which reads the decibel level, and that his team is making an effort not to exceed the required level. He said the town is also asking for a sprinkler system, which he is considering.

“They had told us we would not need to put in a sprinkler system until our second renovation, which we’re doing in the fall, but now they changed their mind, and we may also need to put in an elevator,” said Doscher. “I want to work with the town—I don’t want to be the poster child that works against them. Everyone here enjoys themselves, and we haven’t had one fight here all summer.”

Dave Lucas, of Montauk, said at the meeting that his son, Reed Lucas, is the chef at the Sloppy Tuna, and he’s glad his son can make a living in Montauk so he doesn’t have to leave town like many young people.

“This place does employ many local kids, and it also gives back to the town in many ways,” he said.

Later, Jason Behan said he’d like to see all the restaurant and bar owners in Montauk form an organization similar to the Montauk Boatmen and Captain’s Association, so they could work out their similar problems, which affect all of them.

Correction: Patch previously reported that Preidel stated decibels eclipse levels of 59 decibels or higher, not 95. We regret the error.

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ViralGrain May 21, 2013 at 11:51 am
Unbelievable. So much for majority rule. The board forgets who they work for. They made a mockery ofRead More the democratic process. What they did was nothing different then totalitarian rule. They should be relived of their duty for not representing the people and supporting the majority rule. One can only imagine what other crooked decision making may be taking place that is contrary to the people's wishes. Shame on them! The mayer is a coward who forgets what side his bred is buttered on. The majority got him his job along with the other councilmen and they chose to turn their back on the ones who gave them a job. Bunch of arrogant, out of touch with the people, conceded morons is what they are.
jennifer.wilson May 21, 2013 at 09:44 am
My name is Rich Wilson. I am running for the East Hampton School Board. My agenda is no secret. ItRead More is to increase Scientific Literacy for all of our students in order for them to be better prepared when they enter an increasingly complex and technological world. I have been involved in this initiative for the last 2 years, working with teachers and administrators in all of the school districts in the Town of East Hampton. Cooperatively with a private donor and The GEHEF (Greater East Hampton Education Foundation), we have successfully begun supplying training and complete FOSS (Full Option Science System) materials to our Elementary and Middle School teachers. Using FOSS,The students discover the basic concepts of science through hands-on investigations, the teacher doesn't "cover" them. This is not text book driven, or rote memorization. Writing, reading and math are included with each investigation, resulting in a better understanding of the way the world works. This is being accomplished WITHOUT taxpayer dollars. I am now involved in another joint project to benefit our students that is not funded by taxpayers - the details will be announced soon. I have been involved in Science education for most of my life : Sag Harbor School District (1968 - 1998) - Wrote and delivered the lab component of the K-6 Elementary Science Curriculum . - Started the first Robotics class in 1995. Was the only team from Long Island at the time to compete nationally in the FIRST Competition, (For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology) competition. -Taught a Biology Research class in conjunction with a Biology professor at SUNY Old Westbury. -Co-taught a "Timetables of History" seminar with a High School Social Studies teacher. East Hampton (1986 - 2004) -Owned and operated the "Village Toy Shop and Gifted Generation" , an educational toy store on Main Street, E.H. Amagansett (2003 - 2005) -Owned and operated "ROBOtech" in Amagansett Square, where we taught Lego Mindstorms Robotics to individuals and school groups. I now have the time to devote to the East Hampton School Board and hopefully play a part in the continuing efforts to better the future for all of our students, including my four grandchildren.
jennifer.wilson May 21, 2013 at 09:43 am
Vote Rich Wilson, East Hampton School Board & here is why:
Taylor K. Vecsey (Editor) May 19, 2013 at 09:15 pm
I'm very sorry to hear this. My condolences are with his family and friends.
david May 19, 2013 at 08:28 pm
So sorry to hear this news. Mike helped me once or twice with my boat. A truly nice guy.
david May 19, 2013 at 08:27 pm
290 Montauk Highway.. at East Hampton/Wainscott border.
Drtee-Dancer May 19, 2013 at 04:44 am
Sounds great, but where is it ??
jmm May 18, 2013 at 06:59 am
my understanding was that the dogs were hit by a car upisland not in Montauk
bernette May 17, 2013 at 11:38 am
well after the town board meeting last night the way i see it is the whole town is affected andRead More everyting and everyweek is some one getting away with out paying , we have familys of teenagers sharing rooms with there parnets and siblngs , cause the cost of living , hmmm but no matter where you go it cost money , teachers have there work cut out for them if they have to spend 50 dollars to buy stuff its there choice , well what it boils down to is the childern parnetns rather drive cars and have nice clothes and fancy jelws than spend 5 or 1o dollars to pay for pens for there kids to go to schoo.also i dont feel the familys see what education really is is a free babysitting service thats my feelings ,
Liz Robertson May 19, 2013 at 07:49 am
Misty is back. 155 am Sunday. thanks everyone. a 48 hour tour of the woods was enough for her. sheRead More was on the front porch.
Liz Robertson May 18, 2013 at 05:53 pm
no. i've put up signs, left phone number in neighbors mailboxes and searched nearby roads by bike.Read More maybe she will show up at someone's house when she gets hungry. thanks for asking.
Taylor K. Vecsey (Editor) May 18, 2013 at 03:23 pm
Any luck, Liz?
Mrs.Susan Grimshaw May 17, 2013 at 08:33 am
Looking forward to meeting lots of Great White Shark Fans at the Montauk Star Island SharkRead More Tournament. S.G.
Taylor K. Vecsey (Editor) May 14, 2013 at 09:29 am
Yes. The town is in the final stages of review with the FAA. While they were hoping to have it upRead More and running by Memorial Day weekend, it looks more like the 1st of June.