East Hampton Reacts to New York Gun Control Bill

Local state lawmakers support the NY SAFE Act.

New York State Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday signed into law the first gun control bill to be adopted following the Dec. 14 elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. — with the support of the state lawmakers who represent Southampton.

Sen. Kenneth P. LaValle, R-Port Jefferson, whose district includes the entire East End, voted in favor of the bill, as did Assemblyman Fred Thiele Jr., I-Sag Harbor, who represents the South Fork and Shelter Island.

The Senate passed the legislation, called the NY Secure Firearms and Ammunition Enforcement (SAFE) Act, on Monday by a vote of 43 to 18. The Assembly followed suit on Tuesday by a vote of 104 to 43, and Cuomo signed it into law just hours later.

According to the governor's office, New York will be the first state to completely ban all pre-1994 high capacity magazines; to ban any magazine that can hold more than seven rounds, down from a limit of 10; and to conduct real-time background checks of ammunition purchases in order to alert law enforcement of high volume buyers.

The bill closes the "gun show loophole, which allowed sales of firearms without criminal background checks. The act also includes a tougher assault weapons ban and it requires mental health professional to report when they have reason to believe patients are likely to cause serious harm to themselves or others, among other provisions.

Speaker of the Assembly Sheldon Silver said in a statement, "No civilian needs or should be able to purchase an assault weapon intended to kill as many human beings as swiftly as possible. Let us be perfectly clear — this bill is about protecting people. Protecting our children. Protecting our families. Protecting first responders, police officers, and firefighters."

The National Rifle Association called the bill "draconian."

"These gun control schemes have failed in the past and will have no impact on public safety and crime," an NRA statement reads. "Sadly, the New York Legislature gave no consideration to that reality. While lawmakers could have taken a step toward strengthening mental health reporting and focusing on criminals, they opted for trampling the rights of law-abiding gun owners in New York, and they did it under a veil of secrecy in the dark of night."

East Hampton Patch asked the followers of our Facebook page what they thought of the legislation and its passage.

Marina McCreery said, "Someone had to start the ACTION ! Good work."

John Behan, a former Republican state assemblyman and Montauk resident, said: "No it does nothing to keep illegal guns out of criminals hands. Pass a new law and only upstanding citizens will obey them. Bats, knives, cars & drugs kill more people than guns. The Governor should do something about them instead he's grandstanding to get liberal support to be President."

What do you think of the NY SAFE Act. Join the conversation by leaving your comments below.

Preliator January 16, 2013 at 06:51 PM
What is to be said? The deal was done in secret, at night, no debate, no public comment allowed. It is window dressing, political cake to feed to the liberal masses that really does nothing except give Adolf Cuomo a feather for his cap in 2016. I grieve for my country as I watch the slow inevitable slide begin.
Bonac Refugee January 16, 2013 at 07:01 PM
This bill does nothing to stop events like Sandy Hook but has everthing to do with ramming through gun legislation that the libs have been dying to do for years.You can't tell me that Obama wasn't dancing a jig in the White House at the thought of finally having the rally cry for his gun confiscation adgenda.
Darren Gengarelly Sr. January 16, 2013 at 07:55 PM
Got an e-mail last week from a friend. At first i thought it was extreme. After pondering the following "definition" i realized how relevant it is. Gun Control= The theory that a woman found dead in an alley , raped and strangled with her own pantyhose , is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
Duckbornandraised January 16, 2013 at 08:02 PM
The bill DOES NOT require mental health professionals to contact authorities. It gives them the option to do so if they please, and, if they do not, makes it so they can not be held accountable. The devil is in the details.
Darren Gengarelly Sr. January 16, 2013 at 08:04 PM
Thought i found a non bias forum. oh well. enjoy. Rick Hoyt was spot on with you all at the patch.
Darren Gengarelly Sr. January 16, 2013 at 08:07 PM
it was removed for a bit thanks for returning it Taylor
Eastend50 January 16, 2013 at 09:45 PM
The bill passed mentions 7 round maximun. The only thing I know that would comply with this new law are revolvers and bolt action rifles. I wonder is the previous 10 round max was dropped to 7 with this in mind to ban every other weapon?
Walter Kaprielian January 16, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Cuomo lost my vote for the way he handled this. Quick and dirty backroom politics. New York State had the toughest gun laws in the country with a 9 month background check on every applicant even before the new laws. New York City does not even recognize New York State's Permits, yet 9 people were shot there last week plus 3 Policemen at a police station. It's not the legal guns you have to worry about, it's the illegal ones in the hands of criminals. Laws that punish the innocent don't work. Remember Prohibition?
Rick Hoyt January 17, 2013 at 09:29 AM
It's about control, and Their Agenda,Media,Politicians,Movie Stars and all Their Groupies,Esoteric Elitism Abounds. The Slippery Slope is Very Steep Now. The Stasi is in Plain View Now. I prefer to be my own Family's Homeland Security. Molon Labe !
Rick Hoyt January 17, 2013 at 10:06 AM
If You're Not Aware - It's Illegal to Have Orders Of Decree-"Executive Orders" To Override or Circumvent The 2nd Amendment. > The "Dick Act of 1902" - Take a Look http://www.dailypaul.com/269615/dick-act-of-1902-is-one-of-our-safeguards
Robert Stern January 17, 2013 at 02:29 PM
At the risk of ticking off those with personal assault weapons arsenals, I gotta say that the NRA needs to fire its fantasyland leadership and PR people. They are just alienating everyone but assault weapons=freedom folks. Just my take, but: 1. The NRA's faith in the mental health professions is religious. Psychologists cannot infallibly predict, pre-identify, suspend the Constitutional Rights of, remove or "cure" future mass murderers or suicidals -- even if the NRA called upon the government to throw tens of billions more tax dollars in that general direction. Of course, it's a good bet that the NRA would want to exempt from such mental health attention the low hanging fruitcakes: conspiracy paranoids who publicly advocate violent secession, threaten democratically elected public officials, see police who enforce gun laws as targets, etc. 2. In the real world of crowded, chaotic gunfire (dark theaters, mass gatherings, schools like Columbine which had an armed guard, etc), the "good guys with guns" do not have the luxury of being able to rush in, identify and flawlessly target the "bad guys with guns". Only in the fantasy world of the NRA do the bad guys clearly identify themselves by wearing black hats, scary costumes, threatening background music and a slow motion camera closeup. It appears that our elected officials are not on bended knee to the NRA -- and good for them and us!
S.B. Bonacker January 17, 2013 at 02:47 PM
When is Cuomo going to pass laws that will protect SOCIETY from the dangerous mentally ill? How come that's not being addressed? In almost all of these mass murder cases, the crimes were comitted by young men who were known to be mentally ill, but the "system" still let them walk free in the community.
Rick Hoyt January 17, 2013 at 03:01 PM
Robert Stern, I Am More IntoThe Constitutional Aspects Of This( 2nd Amendment ), But I Do Support You're Expressing Your 1st. Amendment.Open Discourse is a Beautiful Thing, And Although The Internet is Chaotic, It is An Equalizer For "The People",The Oligarchy Is Not Happy About This,They're Trying To Control This Also.Skeptical And Vigilant.
DrSique January 17, 2013 at 05:19 PM
Geez Darren, I guess noone should express their opinion out of fear of offending your morally superior sensabilities. Sad to see you go..............NOT!!!!!!!!
Preliator January 17, 2013 at 08:48 PM
The law is a joke, it will not do anything it claims except punish law-abiding citizens. A News 12 poll shows that 75% of people don't think Adolf Cuomo's law will improve school safety. There was an earlier one where it was 60% did not want any more restrictions on guns. I only hope this goes to court, is expedited to the SCOTUS and the wanna be Fuhere gets his. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKLA3BODXr0
Preliator January 18, 2013 at 04:58 PM
Do your part to fight for your second amendment rights. Contact your reps. http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html Join the NRA. https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=bonusgiftwy&EK=Y3ARPPBD&pubID=148.30&hid=20369416
Robert Stern January 18, 2013 at 08:16 PM
Number of Americans killed in domestic terrorist attacks, 2002-2011: 30 Number of Americans murdered by firearms, 2000-2011: 115,997 Cost of the War on Terror since 9/11: $5 trillion Requirement to board an airplane: Being viewed naked by the TSA. Requirement to buy a gun from a private seller at a gun show: None.
Lady L January 18, 2013 at 09:56 PM
Sure, let them do what Australia did and take away guns, where the murder, assaults and home invasions have dramatically increased. Don't take away the right of licensed gun owners to defend themselves against miscreants, gangs and thieves. Robert, check it out, most murders by firearms are in big cities like Detroit and Chicago and the 6th largest army in the world is gangs, who are armed, organized and very dangerous, mostly related to drugs. Mentally ill people should not have access to guns, they are those responsible for the most recent mass murders.
Robert Stern January 19, 2013 at 05:41 PM
Total number of American weapon caused deaths in all US wars from the Revolution through 2012 = 659,000 Total number of American gun caused deaths in the 40+ years since MLK/RFK assassinations=1,260,700 (the majority of whom, apparently, are considered by some deservingly expendable) Hence, statistics indicate that twice as many American civilians have died in 1/5 the time it took for wars to kill our soldiers. Do the statistics of "home invasions" match that?
Lady L January 19, 2013 at 07:28 PM
Statistically, there are over 8,000 home invasions per day According to a United States Department of Justice report:38% of assaults & 60% of rapes occur during home invasions. 1 of every 5 homes will experience a break­in or home invasion. That's over 2,000,000 homes! According to Statistics Canada, there has been an average of 289,200 home invasions annually over the last 5 years. Statistically, there are over 8,000 home invasions per day in North America. According to Statistics U.S.A., there was an average of 3,600,000 home invasions annually between 1994 and 2000. From the World Health Organization:The latest Murder Statistics for the world:
Lady L January 19, 2013 at 07:29 PM
And...Murders per 100,000 citizens Honduras 91.6 El Salvador 69.2 Cote d'lvoire 56.9 Jamaica 52.2 Venezuela 45.1 Belize 41.4 US Virgin Islands 39.2 Guatemala 38.5 Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2 Zambia 38.0 Uganda 36. Malawi 36.0 Lesotho 35.2 Trinidad and Tobago 35.2 Colombia 33.South Africa 31.8 Congo 30.8 Central African Republic 29.3 Bahamas 27.4 Puerto Rico 26.2 Saint Lucia 25.2 Dominican Republic 25.0 Tanzania 24.5 Sudan 24.2 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9 Ethiopia 22.5 Guinea 22.5 Dominica 22.1 Burundi 21. Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7 Panama 21.6 Brazil 21.0 Equatorial Guinea 20.7 Guinea-Bissau 20.2 Kenya 20.1 Kyrgyzstan 20.1 Cameroon 19.7 Montserrat 19.7 Greenland 19.2 Angola 19.0 Guyana 18.6 Burkina Faso 18.0 Eritrea 17.8 Namibia 17.2 Rwanda 17.1 Mexico 16.9 Chad 15.8 Ghana 15.7 Ecuador 15.2 North Korea 15.2 Benin 15.1 Sierra Leone 14.9Mauritania 14.7 Botswana 14.5 Zimbabwe 14.3 Gabon 13.8 Nicaragua 13.6 French Guiana 13.3 Papua New Guinea 13.0 Swaziland 12.9 Bermuda 12.3 Comoros 12.2 Nigeria 12.2 Cape Verde 11.6 Grenada 11.5 Paraguay 11.5 Barbados 11.3 Togo 10.9 Gambia 10.8 Peru 10.8 Myanmar 10.2 Russia 10.2 Liberia 10.1 Costa Rica 10.0 Nauru 9.8 Bolivia 8.9 Mozambique 8.8 Kazakhstan 8.8 Senegal 8.7 Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7 Mongolia 8.7 British Virgin Islands 8.6 Cayman Islands 8.4 Seychelles 8.3 Madagascar 8.1 Indonesia 8.1 Mali 8.0Pakistan 7.8 Moldova 7.5 Kiribati 7.3
Lady L January 19, 2013 at 07:30 PM
AND...Guadeloupe 7.0 Haiti 6.9 Timor-Leste 6.9 Anguilla 6.8 Antigua and Barbuda 6.8 Lithuania 6.6 Uruguay 5.9 Philippines 5.4 Ukraine 5.2 Estonia 5.2 Cuba 5.0 Belarus 4.9 Thailand 4.8 Suriname 4.6 Laos 4.6 Georgia 4.3 Martinique 4.2 And The United States 4.2
Robert Stern January 20, 2013 at 02:29 AM
Some may not think that 1, 261,000 American civilians dying from guns since 1968 is a biggie..or that the countries with higher murder rates (lets not discuss suicides) don't seem to be our economic/political peers. Would be interested if you have statistics that compare number of perps killed in home invasions vs total number of people actually killed in homes total...including mistaken identify, accidents, domestic violence, etc. Somehow, I doubt that the carnage/benefit ratio works out well, but there might be some individual anecdotes that are comforting. By the logic presented, do you think airline safety would be improved if every passenger packed a Glock on their flights-- to prevent terrorist attacks and hijacking, of course. Feeling safe and being safe are two different things. Professor Harold Pollack, who (among other things) co-directs the University of Chicago's Crime Lab: But the fear (of home invasion) is easily out of proportion to the threat. I had the Chicago police run the number on homicides. In 2011, precisely one homicide listed "burglary" as the motive. Nationwide, there are about 100 burglary-homicides every year. When you compare that to more than 18,000 gun suicides, the conclusions seem pretty obvious. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/12/gun-violence-and-the-irrational-fear-of-home-invasion/266613/
Preliator January 21, 2013 at 01:19 PM
Yet in the 40 years of Roe vs. Wade over 55,000,000 children have been slaughtered in the womb, perfectly acceptable to the liberal readers of The Atlantic. Liberals would die to save a whale, fight in court to protect cop killers from a death sentence but abortion? They dance on the graves of millions while celebrating what a wonderful thing they have done.
Preliator January 21, 2013 at 08:10 PM
It seems the crooks in Albany were is such a rush they forgot to exempt their thugs from the new 7 bullet rule. Fine with me, if 7 bullets is good enough for me it is good enough for everyone else, especially all the cops and guards for Mayor Bloomberg and Gov. Cuomo. No exceptions, no exemptions; 7 bullets for everyone. http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8958116


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