Wind Farm Planned off Coast of Montauk

Project would be the nation's first 200-turbine, 9,000 megawatt offshore energy center. What do you think about it?

An offshore wind farm may soon be built 30 miles from Montauk Point, bringing renewable energy to stabilize electricity prices and improving air quality on Long Island.

The Deepwater Wind Energy Center, situated between Long Island and New England, would be the nation's first 200-turbine, 900-megawatt offshore regional energy center. Deepwater Wind, the Rhode Island-based project developer, estimates that the energy center will produce enough electricity to power 350,000 homes — about 10 percent of Long Island's electricity needs — and displace over 1.7 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions annually.

The wind project is located in the federal waters of the Atlantic Ocean on the Outer Continental Shelf, about 30 miles east of Montauk and 15 miles southeast of Martha's Vineyard. The company says the turbines won't be visible from land.

The project also would connect to the Long Island Power Authority's electric grid at a substation in Shoreham through a 98-mile, 600-megawatt undersea transmission network. The cable line would stretch from Massachusetts to New York, through the Long Island Sound, south of Block Island and between Connecticut and the North Fork, to deliver clean, renewable energy to multiple markets, according to Deepwater Wind.

The New England-Long Island Interconnector "will also connect the wind farm and Long Island to southeastern New England, allowing Long Island to not only receive wind energy but also to import conventional energy from New England, where there’s a surplus of new gas-fired generation, during low-wind periods."

All told, the project could cost about $4.5 billion. Work could begin in the Rhode Island Sound as early as 2014, with the first phase of the project going online in 2017.

The company says the project will also create jobs through the construction, operations and maintenance phases of the wind farm and transmission system.

The energy center is the first of “second generation” offshore wind projects that are larger, capture stronger winds in deeper, 150 feet-waters farther from shore, and use an advanced submarine cable transmission network. Offshore turbines are spaced one mile apart to accommodate boaters and fisherman.

Deepwater Wind first submitted an application to the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management Regulation and Enforcement in December 2010.

Deepwater Wind is also the developer behind the Block Island Wind Farm, a 30-megawatt wind project off of Block Island, which will be the first offshore wind farm.

What do you think about the project? Do you support it? Tell us why?

A correction was made to this article. It is 900-megawatt, not 9,000. The pricetag is also $4.5 billion, according to the company.

Thomas Solheim August 02, 2012 at 05:52 PM
5B would go a long way to help hungry, homeless, sick American Family's
ViralGrain August 02, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Dan are you stating we are going to use sailboats and schooners to build and maintain these things? I already gave a good idea as to a more realistic alternative with a better return price wise and eco friendly wise. Give the power to the people, not put it out of sight and out of mind. 5 Billion creates allot of solar panels. And you know it will be more then 5 billion cause not even estimate are ever accurate. But as long as people of power who are in the circle to decide can profit off such endeavors, have lobbyists and politicians in their pockets, we will go for the wind farm. Thanks Solusipe for breaking it down in many words and helping me explain what I ment when I compared this to Shoreham. I am totally for green energies, but so are companies who will extort this need of ours to turn a profit for themselves with little or no impact on the the over all objective which is to make the most with the least and give us all self sufficiency from imported energy solutions while saving Mother Earth.
Dan Terrasi August 02, 2012 at 07:33 PM
Viral - I get your point about anything controlled solely by the govt usually leads to waste and overspend. Can't argue that. I'd certainly be all for ANY renewable energy provided to homeowners if that was proposed. I also can't argue Mr. Sollheim's point regarding 5b would do an awful lot to help struggling families. So much to do, not enough money and too many conflicting priorities/opinions. But I just don't see this project being anything like a Shoreham because there is no massive potential disaster scenario as there would be with nuclear energy.
Susan G Winkler August 03, 2012 at 03:07 AM
I`m with you- a wind farm anywhere on state land in Montauk would be better than in the water- cheaper, easier to build and maintain. Why not?
ViralGrain August 03, 2012 at 05:22 AM
Yea I guess your rite. The economic melt down happened a long time ago. I think a multi independent study should be done comparing blanketing Long Island with solar panels and its average yearly return not only per killwatt generated, but its carbon footprint from construction to 25 years after beginning operational. Many people would settle for any renewable energy. Lets be smart about it. Not like the plastic bag ban in the villages. Papper bags recycled or not are worse the plastic any day. I won't go there since this is about the generating energy. As long as we keep our power generation out there wether it is a wind farm or on its own island, it will never be free energy nor will we ever be out from under the thumbs of the energy providers. We will get more bang for the buck with solar panels and more immediate work for Long Islander's unless we out source it to a Chinese firm with Chinese workers like they do for the roads and bridges now.
bess mavrikakis August 03, 2012 at 07:49 AM
Its about time all that wind will be put to use. But why not on land. We live part time in Crete and the landscape is full of wind turbines. It's been extremely windy this summer and the turbines are doing their job.
Preliator August 03, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Blame the NIMBY's who don't want to look at them or any thing that does not meet their tastes.
Sheila DeCosse August 03, 2012 at 12:44 PM
learned a lot by reading the comments as well as the article. But, has anyone consulted the fishing industry or deep water researchers that could investigate the effects of this underwater construction on the fishing and marine habitat? IThe turbines seem like a great idea but the above must be investigated and signed off on before or if approval is given.
Alice August 06, 2012 at 02:03 AM
Well documented problem- A Picture is worth a thousand words. Where is the Coast Guard? Click here: Wind Turbines Leave Clouds and Energy Inefficiency in Their Wake | Popular Science http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-01/wind-turbines-leave-clouds-and-energy-inefficiency-their-wake/
Alice August 06, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Will there be a land based battery backup system? First Wind Hawaii August 3, 2012 Click here: Kahuku wind farm fire spreads concerns over future projects - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/19194074/kahuku-wind-farm-fire-spreads-concerns-over-future-projects "Aerial shots over the Kahuku wind farm show the warehouse that was filled with 12,000 battery packs severely damaged and releasing toxic smoke and lead into the air. Authorities say the nearest residences downwind were miles away and it's very unlikely to pose a health risk. First Wind is supposed to submit a cleanup plan to the state by the end of the day which will include samples of the air, soil and water. The State Department of Health will review the plan and decide if it's sufficient or if the state should do its own tests."
Alice August 06, 2012 at 12:33 PM
Deepwater Wind Board of Managers http://dwwind.com/about/board-of-director First Wind- Steve Key currently serves on the board of directors of First Wind Paul Gaynor Chief Executive Officer of First Wind; former Senior Vice President and Chief Development Officer of Singapore Power Group and Chief Operating Officer of SP International and Vice President and Manager of Asia Pacific at GE Capital’s Structured Finance Group Michael Alvarez President and Chief Financial Officer of First Wind; former Vice President of Strategic Planning at Edison International and Executive Vice President Bryan Martin Managing Director of D. E. Shaw & Co., L.P. and co-head of the D. E. Shaw group’s U.S. growth and buyout private equity unit. Formerly a partner at J.P. Morgan Partners, LLC. Mr. Martin currently serves or has served on the boards of First Wind Holdings Inc (current), Franklin Holdings (Bermuda), Ltd. (current)
Alice August 06, 2012 at 12:43 PM
In terms of effectiveness and cost- http://theenergycollective.com/willem-post/53258/examples-wind-power-learn
ViralGrain August 06, 2012 at 03:26 PM
Alice- Great research! I have a feeling that LIPA may be likely to go ahead with a project like this that would create huge losses for the Non-for profit as they currently operate under in order to re-privatize LIPA or the power supply company for Long Island. There has been steady talk by LIPA trustees in accomplishing this. This wind farm maneuver may be the tactic to be applied that would send the current state of LIPA into so much debt, that selling LIPA to a private entity would be the only option. We must as a community keep control of our electrical costs and supply or we will be further economically enslaved. The thing I find most ironic about this is, that the pronunciation of LIPA translates in Russian to mean something like "False Governmental Documents". Guess the name LIPA could not be anymore appropriate. LOL http://www.lipower.org/strategicreview/
ViralGrain August 06, 2012 at 03:33 PM
LICO became LIPA after Shoreham. Why? LIPA will become ......... after the wind farm. Why?
Alice August 06, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Click here: LIPA on Schedule to Transition from National Grid to PSEG as new Service Provider http://www.lipower.org/newscenter/pr/2012/062712-OSC.html Go to FERC subcategory e library and do a general search(check off at least 2 years); no need to give any numbers, just type LIPA, or spell it out and also PSEG and National Grid. I beleive they will have to prove no vertical or horizontal market power before approval.
Alice August 06, 2012 at 04:10 PM
Also follow the Bonneville situation where two renewables are competing(wind and hydro) and the public and ratepayers are paying for both without generation and all the fines therein!!
Fred Dacimo August 06, 2012 at 10:01 PM
crazy 4.5 billion for 900 mw is crazy high
Barbara Durkin August 07, 2012 at 08:47 PM
This is horrible news. First Wind formed DeepWater Wind and First Wind projects fail, yet developers continue to collect public subsidies. Seven of of First Wind subsidiary projects were siezed in Operation: "Gone with the Wind" in Italy. Their Kahuku Wind project and Xtreme Battery are First Wind projects in the news and embers.
Barbara Durkin August 07, 2012 at 09:00 PM
Thank you, Alice! Great research!
Alice August 08, 2012 at 01:14 AM
FYI :Deepwater's Board has a Managing Director of ENRON also! Click here: Deepwater Wind : About : Board of Managers http://dwwind.com/about/board-of-directors Brian Redmond Founder of Paragon Energy Holdings LLC; former President of Houston Pipe Line Company and President of Louisiana Resource Company, Managing Director of Enron, and Executive Director of UBS Warburg Energy. David Hang Senior Vice President of D. E. Shaw & Co., L.P. and a member of the D. E. Shaw group’s U.S. growth and buyout private equity unit. Formerly a principal at J.P. Morgan Partners, LLC. Mr. Hang has served on the boards of Brand Energy & Infrastructure Services, Inc. and Vetco International Ltd.
Alice August 08, 2012 at 01:39 AM
LIPA chose PSEG over National Grid? PSEG and Deepwater http://greeneconomypost.com/offshore-wind-energy-startup-2676.htm "Deepwater Wind Has Deep Pockets and Is Securing Deals Deepwater Wind, a well backed startup based in Hoboken, NJ is putting together some very large deals involving large sums of equity that it will raise. It has been selected by Rhode Island to develop a large $1.5 billion offshore wind project in federal waters lying off the state’s seaboard. In addition the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities has chosen Garden State Offshore Energy (GSOE), which is a joint venture of PSEG Renewable Generation (a subsidiary of PSEG Global a large integrated energy company) and Deepwater Wind, as the preferred developer of a 350-megawatt wind farm off the coast of New Jersey."
Barbara Durkin August 08, 2012 at 01:48 AM
DeepWater Wind Board of Managers Tony Meggs Board Chairman, former Group Vice President of Technology at BP and former Group Vice President in BP Exploration and Production; http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=98&contentId=2018393currently http://truth-out.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=1754:whistleblower-bp-risks-more-massive-catastrophes-in-gulf ".. Last May, Mike Sawyer, an engineer with Apex Safety Consultants who evaluated BP's database and looked into the whistleblower's allegations, concluded that of the 2,108 P&IDs BP maintained that dealt specifically with the subsea components of its Atlantis production project, 85 percent did not receive engineer approval. Even worse, 95 percent of Atlantis' subsea welding records did not receive final approval, calling into question the integrity of thousands of crucial welds on subsea components that, if they were to rupture, could result in an oil spill 30 times worse than the one that occurred after the explosion on Deepwater Horizon last week. In a report Sawyer prepared after his review of the Atlantis project, he said BP's "widespread pattern of unapproved design, testing and inspection documentation on the Atlantis subsea project creates a risk of a catastrophic incident threatening the [Gulf of Mexico] deep-water environment and the safety of platform workers." Moreover, "the extent of documentation discrepancies creates a substantial risk that a catastrophic event could occur at any time."
Barbara Durkin August 08, 2012 at 01:53 AM
To frame my comment of Tuesday, Aug 7th. The lead federal regulator is Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, BOEM, for offshore leasing. They changed their names, twice, since the Gulf Oil Spill Disaster under BOEM, then Minerals Management Service, MMS. A "culture of ethical failure" according to the US Inspector General. Not only was Meggs' former employer British Petroleum involved in the Gulf disaster, but Meggs brought us the Atlantis, and it was under MMS, BOERME, now BOEM's watch, like DeepWater is now.
April Gornik August 09, 2012 at 01:39 AM
I hope they've cited it with concern for bird migration patterns.
Francesca Rheannon August 10, 2012 at 01:17 PM
The new wind turbine technology kills very few birds -- and orders of magnitude less than fossil fuel-driven climate change.
Francesca Rheannon August 10, 2012 at 01:24 PM
Actually, it will keep any sane person happy. If you love the East End, you hate climate change. On the current business-as-usual trajectory of greenhouse gas emissions, we'll see sea level rise that will have vast swathes of our land underwater by mid-century -- the sea is rising faster here than most places. Do you have children? Grandchildren? THEY will be happy for clean, renewable energy that might, if done NOW, just possibly save this beautiful land for them and their descendents.
Francesca Rheannon August 10, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Liman, pardon me for being crass, but the multibillion dollar subsidies to the oil, coal and gas industries are being paid by everyone--along with the massive toll in death and disease from global warming, from the increase in disease from ticks and mosquitos to asthma, neurological deficits (from the mercury from coal-burning power plants)--and the list goes on. The cost in lives and treasure from the devastation of our environment from dirty energy dwarfs the piddling tax incentives we give to solar and wind-- tax incentives that are always being threatened, most recently by Mitt Romney, who wants to take away the wind power credit.
Mark Duchamp August 10, 2012 at 09:32 PM
Wrong, Francesca, this is wind salesman's rhetoric. Birds have survived warmer periods: the Medieval Warm Period 900 years ago, the Roman Warm Period, the Minoan Warm Period, the Holocene Warm period, etc. CO2 is a "good" gas, a vital one. The more of it, the more vegetation, the less deserts. There was 4 times as much CO2 in the atmosphere during the dinosaur era, when the earth had the most luxuriant vegetation, and ten times as much when appeared the first corals, 600 million years ago. These are scientific facts, not propaganda of the type we get from IPCC, Greenpeace, WWF, and other politically motivated oeganizations. Global Warming (or Climate Change) is a fraud, and so is the wind industry. Windfarms are useless boondoggles. Germany is presently building 23 coal-fired power stations, after covering the country with wind turbines: http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,16136728,00.html They need to keep the lights on. And California, with all its "green" energy, had to issue an alert in July to restrict the use of electricity: http://flexalert.org/downloads/ISO_NewsRelease_Flex_Alert_August-10-12.pdf Wind energy won't keep the lights on: it is intermittent, not there when you need it. Besides, it is too expensive, and makes the price of electricity soar: Danes and Germans, who have the most of it per capita, pay double the average European rate for electricity. Some German firms have decided to relocate their plants abroad.
Dan Terrasi August 12, 2012 at 01:58 AM
Coal is arguably the worst pollutant of all fossil fuels. While wind and solar energy are currently nowhere near as efficient as coal, oil or gas, their sources are unlimited and clean - wind and sun. Over time the technology will make them more efficient and a viable alternative to traditional sources, such as hydro electricity.
Mike Delia October 25, 2012 at 03:34 AM
Kevin H. --- Your numbers sound good but Deepwater just charged Rhode Island 24.4 cents per kWh; and also promised to build the staging area in Quonset Rhode Island. Some body maybe all of us are going to get the short end of this Deepwater thing.


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