E. Hampton S.D. - Don't you folks have a rough time passing the budget each year? Why on earth would you allow your Principal to talk you into this globalist waste of money?
The application process for IB now costs $23,000 and takes two years. During those two years, you will spend another $60-70,000 for mandatory IB teacher training which will be ongoing as long as you have the program. Then, there is an annual $10,000 membership fee which is constantly increasing, combined with a student registration fee of $141 for every student who takes a single IB exam. IB exams are $96 compared to AP which is $86. On average, it costs $200,000 per year, per school, to run an IB program.

And that's not even touching on the divisive politics of IB.

Learn the facts at:

www.truthaboutib.com

Just for the record, I am the administrator of Truth About IB and a resident of the Locust Valley School District on Long Island which misguidedly adopted IB in 2004. Since 2004, mt district has gone out of its way to hide any data related to IB expenses and results. I have had to FOIL the district just to obtain such simple information as how many students went out for and actually earned the IB Diploma each year. Our small HS has only 650 students. Honors and almost every AP course in 11th & 12th Grades were replaced with IB. The pass rate for the IBDP in LVCSD is 66%, meaning one out of every three students who devotes their final two years of HS to IB FAILS to earn the Diploma. On average, only 20 students manage to earn the IBDP.

Consider also, that LVCSD used to average 35-36 AP Scholars every year. It now averages zero.

I urge the E. Hampton Trustees and interested parents and taxpayers to contact me at info@truthaboutib.com with questions. IB is not the "21st century education" they will try and market. It is non-transparent and proprietary. IB is based on 1948 socialist/UNESCO values and seeks to undermine your local control and national sovereignty. It is causing controversy and divisiveness all over this country. In these dire economic times, IB is the last thing your children need to prepare them for the future.

I forgot to add some additional ongoing IB costs that will only increase, not decrease, as time goes by. Those include:

* Salary for an IB Coordinator (usually at least a .5 position)
* Stipend for an EE Supervisor ($2,500-3,500 per year)
* Stipend for a CAS Supervisor (same $)
* IB mailing costs ($5,000+ per year)
* Copy machine designated only for IB use
* IB Conferences for Administrators ($5,000 average per year)
* Ongoing IB teacher training (leave replacements, maternity leaves, administrative turnover)
* Substitute salaries (for when IB teachers are away at training)

Oh yes, and the cost of all IB materials including course guides/syllabi, which unlike AP, are NOT available online for free and must be purchased from the IB Store. This cost can vary depending upon how many IB courses the school offers, but you can get an idea of the cost per guide HERE:

http://store.ibo.org/

Thank you Ms. McLoughlin for your comments, however, yours is one side of the story. You may be accurately depicting what is happening in your area (I have not researched the numbers you present so I will not agree with nor disagree with them) but is not representative of what is happening in all areas. My child attends a very successful IB program with a very high pass rate. Also, IB does not have to mean no AP. The AP curriculum is being run within the IB requirements at my child's school and many students are graduating with a year or more of college credit already complete. Cost is a concern for this program as it is with any program in any public school. The program is not for everyone. The student needs to be motivated for this program. It is a rigorous curriculum and students are not successful simply because their parents push them to be. They have to want it and work for it. These are all considerations when choosing any program for any student need and must be weighed appropriately. What I will never understand, is why a gifted student who is working above their grade level is not allowed to work to their full potential. Isn't that what the school system should be striving to do? This may be a way for those students to get what they need. It is not right for anyone to deprive one child's education for another....and that goes BOTH ways.

Dear IBMom,

Actually, the numbers I presented for the Locust Valley SD are very representative of what is happening in many public schools in many states which have made the unfortunate decision to adopt IB. I have researched them, present actual documents from named districts and follow them closely. In fact, in 2009-2010, 33 U.S. schools dropped IB due to cost and lack of interest. Until such time as you or IB can present evidence to the contrary (other than anonymous undocumented accolades such as yours), my information must be recognized as the true reporting of IB results.

Who is stopping the gifted student from working to their full potential with AP? AP is college-level. IB, by its own definition, is college-preparatory. Most U.S. universities refuse to award college credit for IB's SL exams. IB is a down-grade to any AP U.S. high school.

In some schools which have attempted to cover-up the replacement of AP with IB, they tell the parents that the AP curriculum is being taught. It's not. Just because your school may require/recommend that your child take BOTH the AP and IB exams (a form of child abuse used to beef up a school's ranking on the Newsweek Best High School's List - now defunct) does not mean that your child was taught the AP curriculum. IB regulations require the IB "philosophy" to be the course students are taught. Paying $182 in exam fees for a SINGLE SUBJECT is unreasonable and frankly, stupid.

Again Ms. McLoughlin, your view does not represent all IB programs throughout the US.

You say "AP curriculum is being taught. It's not". Um....in my child's school, yes it is. He's taken the AP exams and has college credit. I'm not dealing in theory here, I am dealing in fact.

You say "they tell the parents that the AP curriculum is being taught. It's not. Just because your school may require/recommend that your child take BOTH the AP and IB exams (a form of child abuse ". Child abuse?? Really? Come on now.

You say "Paying $182 in exam fees for a SINGLE SUBJECT is unreasonable and frankly, stupid." Stupid for whom? Doesn't seem stupid to the parent of a student who is in the program, doing well and scheduled to graduate with honors, scholarships and a year of college already complete.

And speaking of college.....why is it that so many scholarships awarded by colleges go to IB students? Are the colleges of the country all stupid too? Really now.

Bottom line.... You have a personal emotional dislike of IB. I'm fine with that. It takes all kinds. If it eats at you that there are student out there like mine that go through IB and use it as a tool to do very well in life, I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.

"And speaking of college.....why is it that so many scholarships awarded by colleges go to IB students? Are the colleges of the country all stupid too? Really now." ~IB Mom

Read the fine print. I have. Not only that, you need to consider the quality of the colleges that ARE offering IB merit scholarships. None of the Ivies offer merit scholarships, did you know that? Those universities that do offer scholarships to IB Diploma recipients almost exclusively require a score of '30' or higher (top score 45) to be eligible (even schools like SUNY Binghamton). Yet IB Diplomas are awarded beginning with a score of '24'. The 'mean' score for IB Diplomas earned has been in the 28-29 range.

"If it eats at you that there are student out there like mine that go through IB and use it as a tool to do very well in life, I'm sorry, but that's the way it is." ~ IB Mom

Don't be sorry, IB Mom. I couldn't care less if parents like yourself want to subject your child to that kind of torturous schooling. But do it on your own dime, at a private academy, and don't force the taxpayers as a whole to supplement your over-zealous "wants". A public school system funded by the public must address the needs of ALL of the students within a set budget. Bottom line, IB is disruptive to the rest of the school, divisive, elitist, less college-credit worthy, unreasonably expensive and carries political and religious baggage.

I am not up to date on this IB program but I do know about UNESCO created in 1946 . An anthropologist, Weston LaBarre, stated what is essentially the goal of all UNESCOites: "We know how to manufacture the future citizens of the world. We just haven't decided yet what kind of personalities we want, yet the single most important thing ultimately in the politics of the world is the kind of human being temperamentally, that we manufacture. Through anthropological and psychiatric knowledge and control of the bringing up of our children, we are able to shape almost any kind of human personality that an increasingly integrated world requires. (the original was italicized.) But let any future engineers of human nature know what they are doing...we may have to give up socially valued sublimated drives if we are to edit and revise our traditional sexual morality...the really serious thing is the kinds of human being we make, and the ways we go about making them. The child, we say, is the father of the individual man. But more than that, in this larger sense, the child is the father of all future mankind."

The people who put this program together in 1945-46 knew what they were doing and what their goals were and IB is a continuation of that same program: creating citizens of the world without reference, as LaBarre indicated, to any system of morality -- and the chaos of today's society shows how successful "they" have been.

As far as entry into today's universities is concerned, the "professors" by and large are graduates of the same type of learning --who was it that voted in the present New Left?

Since 1946 graduates of the same philosophy are determined by any means possible to erase the Constitution and Bill of Rights, as well as all understanding of the morality required to support those basic Documents of Freedom. As Dr. Charles Hodge predicted in 1848 the system of public schools then proposed to be paid for by government taxes would become the greatest engine for the propagation of nihilism the world has ever seen--and so it has become.

A Mom Just Graduated From IB Hell....or IB IS BS.....or IB Done.......
Let me address some of these issues contained in the responses....

- IB kids get scholarships at college....that is not happening.....it is in fact going away. My son qualified for a $10K scholarship at his college because he was an IB student. By the time he entered the university, that option disappeared for all IB students...and it was not replaced with specifics for IB.....SAT/ACT/grades/and monetary need carried more weight....also keep in mind that every year there are federal requirements for minority and disability admissions if the university is not private......so the real picture can get a little confusing and misleading based on how one views the data......but largely.....IB doesn't get you anything.....the kid who graduated tops at my son's school and in the IB program was denied....repeat.....denied....acceptance by all IVY league school......not just four universities ....(IV)....but all the contemporary IVY league schools......and the school he went to......did not give him any scholarship and he was an outstanding athlete.....great grades/he was a National Merit Scholar/ great ACT/SAT......and no....he was not accepted....went to Washington St. Louis....a top 20 college in the US. The college picture is ever evolving and there are many more factors than IB or no IB. Diploma or no IB diploma.....not a big deal anywhere.....

IB BEEN THERE AND I GOT A BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH

to continue.......

Parents......beware of this phrase......."please rectify this matter with the school"

You, as parents will lose all control over your rights and your child's rights. The IB coordinator becomes the only person who holds the fate of your child if there are any issues. The school district is obsolved, the IB organization will not help......is is useless and ........heaven forbid you have to do anything legal.......do you like Geneva......that is the only place you can litigate and by the way the IBO is held harmless.......my $400 phone bills and many e-mails will attest to this....I know a parent who teaches in the IB Program and has a child with special needs in the IB program at the school she teaches in.....the IB coordinator will not file any provisions for additional time...(allowed by the IBO).....on exams. The student received extra time on SAT/AP/ACT exams. The IB Coordinator is violation but the parent is stuck.....she will lose her job if she fights for her child. In another school, my child received extra time without a word from my child or me. It was initiated by the IB Coordinator.....yep.....it is not the same all over but I live in the state with the most IB programs......most parents find the work laborious not rigorous.......Do you want your child in a program where the CEO of the IB organization was outed for plagarizing a speech by a reknown educator in the US.....look it up.

They can use all their fancy words, pictures, and snobbery.......it is not worth it........and teacher training......I guess they taught my child's 10 th grade teacher to lock him in the room with her while she berated him over being concerned about her inappropriate debate topics.....castration for rapists, make it illegal for homosexuals to adopt, and many more. Or the science teacher who chose to plagarize assignments off the Venezualan IB website.....easily found out....or the Theory of Knowledge teacher who on the first day of classes told the class that they would get a 95 if they just came to class and participated.....or the other English teacher that graded papers in January that were submitted in October......for all of our experience we can name only five good teacher experiences while in the IB program......many children in our area have a variety of options to go to highschool.....on line, home schooled, "academy" concept, 2 & 2...while going to highschool....a child also takes course work physically in a community school and they receive a HS diploma and a Associates degree .....they go to two graduations............In our community, I have seen kids make different choices....some for economics, some for physical locale, some for lifestyle.......guess what.......where my son goes to college.....they are equally represented.....an IB course load is not viewed in our state......these days......as anything of more value than another program.

I feel I allowed my child to be abused by this system....it is a system...and they want students to deny their individuality...they want drones...why is there no mention of the outstanding IB graduates in our society....oh, that would be the leader of South Korea ..and....the other reknown one is in jail......The Underwear Bomber...and no one else...No Gates, No Zuckerberg, No Connan O'Brien, No Ms. O'Bama, No President O'Bama...these last 5 names attended Harvard without the RIGOROUS coursework of the IB program. If you want to give up all control to one person....the IB coordinator have at it.....better yet...let your kid get adopted and live with the IB Coordinator. Then you will not have to wake up at three in the morning to find your child asleep on a textbook with a pencil in hand and dinner on a plate that was not eaten...an assignment was due. Exams are graded all over the world. An English exam could be graded in Pakistan..they change every year...a Spanish exam could be graded in Singapore......A biology exam could be graded in Germany...IB elitism is losing favor for an uprising quiet patriotic revolt...we are US citizens and our children's future...diploma, pass, fail,.. IB exams is in the hands of educators throughout the globe...Jews were forced to wear arm bands by the Nazis so they could be identified and persecuted.....in some schools, the IB students must wear IB signage everyday....a uniform of sorts. Think. History does repeat itself...in different forms.

IB is waste of money and time- I have never been so frustrated a with a program in my kids school- why my kids must focus on crap like being a risk taker at 6 years of age instead of hmm learning to count or learning the states- IB spends more time profiling students and less time teaching- The IB org speaks for itself-

In 2004, the same year I became involved in my research into and criticism of the IB, the respected Conservative Black Economist and Professor at Stanford, Dr. Thomas Sowell, issued the following column:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell022604.asp

Sowell was right on the money, but I believe he underestimated IB by calling it a "fad". I believe IB is part and parcel of the Progressive "movement".

Next Tuesday we will supposedly be treated to a State of the Union address in which Obama will try to trick Americans into believing he wants to spend more money on "Made in America" education. Unfortunately, Obama's history of endorsing IB (dating back to 1998 when he sat on the Annenberg Challenge's board in Chicago with unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers) and his "social justice" components which have rewarded IB in Title I schools via the porkulus bill (See Long Beach HS - $1.3M) belie his true agenda.

Sorry people but there is ONLY one side to the story.

IB is part of the UN's attempt to eradicate, nullify, bypass our constitution and get the students to bow to a higher power, the UDHR.

This program is a trojan horse for world socialism. Wake the heck up! I refuse to 'teach the mission of world government'.

To All...please excuse my faux pas.....with regard to...... SOUTH KOREA.......the reference was intended for the leader of NORTH KOREA.....this subject gets me so agitated I can barely control my angst and it sometimes makes my brain go haywire reliving the horrible experience as a parent......and finally....as a result of the IB program extremes, my child has a permanent disability....panic attacks...for which he receives extra time on tests in college and takes medication.......and the English teacher still has her job. Abuse? ...of my tax dollars and my child. As a result of the IB coordinator's actions, perceived ADA violations, the US Dept of Education is evaluating what might be appropriate action.

At graduation.....my child threw all of his IB garb......honor cords, white satin bib with the IB insignae embroidered, his diploma..............in the dumpster of the convention center where graduation was held......I had to dumpster dive for his diploma.....does this sound like someone happy with his high school years? He attended college 9 days after graduation......and has not looked back. His laughter has returned. His smile has returned. He is happy......we can see it in our Skype communications.We missed it for so many years.........and he is studying for his LSATs this summer...........He loves school.............again.

IB was invented by the UN. Strike one. IB supports a globalist anti US curriculum. Strike two. IB costs butt loads more tax payer money than AP. STRIKE THREE! It's a waste of my hard earned money and I'll not have my kids learning globalist dogma.

Note to IB Mom:

Like you, I once believed all the IB hype....scholarships, a year's worth of credit.......three years ago, this could be true.

Caution.....we were so surprised at the new college climate when we were nine months from high school graduation.....and the financial need thresholdat college.....and the dynamics of the demographics....and the demand for bi lingual students, ....and the acceptance of IB credits. o lack thereof.....we did our homework....I was a Velcro parent on this subject......just keep checking CollegeConfidential.com and the websites of your child's choice.....in my experience if you don't stay on top of it on a monthly basis.....you will be in for a rude awakening....oh, yeah....some scholarships are privately funded.....that means your child can win the scholarship and if the benefactor just can't meet the commitment...the scholarship goes POOF!..been there, had it happen. Your child with an IB Diploma is of small significance to the college of his or her choice......colleges have their own rules...what the high school IB Coordinator told you is just that.....what they told you..those statements have no tangible value at the colleges....somehow all the promises of one year of college credits.....is more myth than reality...it is all relative depending on the courses taken by your child in the IB progran and which college they ultimately attend. BEWARE!

If you believe half of what the IB people told you, you might not be disappointed

Hot Springs School District, in Arkansas. I'll not give opinions. You can look for yourselves. Arkansas Dept of Ed, Test Scores, School District. . Yes, the few students who are IB (5 graduates this year after TEN years IB) do well, but they would have done well wherever they were. The middle school is full IB, and it's in it's 2nd year of state control. Several of the elementary schools are, along with the high school, very near that point. Years 3, 4, and so on.. of either not making progress, under restructuring, or whatever. The one shining star. Park IB. The only school, where nothing but IB children attend. They select the best and the brightest at kindergarten level . They give them the best of EVERYTHING (less students per teacher, almost non existant students with disabilities, few students eligible for free or reduced lunches, another words, no poor kids (they couldn't do it anyway in HS) Racial imbalance (almost all white) more masters degrees teachers, etc.. -12 million dollar NEW Building). So yeah, if you're wanting to build a private school for rich white kids, who only a small portion will even receive the full diploma, and throw the rest of your district away (band, athletics, schedules, everything revolves around IB) Go Ahead. You will HAVE to change your mission statement for the whole district (says IB) to reflect their mission. You will have to teach courses required by IB, even if only 1 student is in the class (says IB). Look at Hot Springs. Look HARD!

I believe that in our district, when A/P is run concurrently with IB, ONLY IB students get to take it because it's the first year of the 2 year courses. That's another problem. Some classes you take for 3 and 4 years, but all at least 2. If you want to stop, say after 3 years of Spanish or you move... YOU GET NO WEIGHTED CREDIT FOR ANYTHING YOU'VE DONE. It was all for nothing. The IB coordinator can also say NO, you can't enroll again, if you did poorly one semester and not allow you continue. So even if you would have gotten college credit in an AP class, you get nothing with IB until you finish all of it and take the test at the end of your senior year. IB will not transfer in high school to a regular school. Don't be fooled.

To all Patch readers,

I just want to take a moment to thank Gene Birkeland for contributing to this forum. You may not recognize her name, or even her pen name Ellen McClay, but she is the last surviving Minutewoman of the U.S.A. We ignore the historical dire warnings of our parents and grandparents at our children's peril. Gene's first hand accounts of her battle against UNESCO's infiltration of American education in the 50's and 60's makes for compelling reading and I urge anyone interested in the IB issue to purchase her book:

http://www.amazon.com/Presence-Our-Enemies-Malignant-Tranformation/dp/1420894226/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1295735380&sr=1-1

Let's face it, the UN isn't interested in brainwashing anyone but the best and brightest.

Dear Ms.....

You are correct in your statement about the transfer of credits with the IB and regular school........they are not transferable. Since our economy is a mess, many are sacrificing locale for the opportunity to have a job........I know of a junior in the IB program who had to move with her family......no IB school for her to attend at their new destination.....she attended HS for five years and did on line courses to get a high school degree in her new state because of her IB years...YIKES!

Another student....parents moved two states away for a job....he was left to stay with another family because he was in his junior year of the IB program and if he move with his family, he would also have a five year high school plan.....so at 16....he stayed away from his family just because of the IB program.

Sounds like the youth of the Nazi movement being taken from their parents for indoctrination or in this case.....he couldn't stomache five years of high school.

(Note to the school district in Long Island, NY)

If you keep your blinders on....shame on you. Be a free thinker. Research for yourself what it
means to you.......by the way...I am an ex-NYer and I remember Long Island having extremely
high taxation..............and you want the IB program......how do you sell your homes with taxation rates that will escalate and home values are not exactly secure......THINK!

This is disturbing - I just received the following e-mail from Gene Birkeland:

Upon receipt of your notification that someone had entered a comment
or two, I went back to Patch to enter a comment on the several stories
contained therein by a couple of mothers who obviously were in your
corner. Guess what? the computer says my email address and password
were being used by some one else, and I should use another name. Don't
know what happened to my statement, because I tried about three times to
re-enter and was turned down! GB

Is the Patch moderator censoring Ms. Birkeland? I certainly hope not! Please rectify what MUST be a technical glitch in your system.

It must be a unique email and password for THIS system. Not just any.

We are not keeping Gene from making any comments. But, I will look into what must be a technical problem. Thank you.

IB is a true waste of taxpayer money. It is the root of socialism and the demise of this country. You are being scamed if you believe your child will get college credits for taking one IB class. You need to complete the TWO year program and IF you pass you MAY get college credit. Many children who take IB in 11th and 12th grade forfiet their time for nothing because colleges are NOT giving credits away. SAY NO TO IBO.

Once you have made the decision not to go IB fire the pricipal for proposing the program because if he believes that this programme is good for the district who knows what other things he is bringing into the district.

Read the IB textbooks, they dumb down American history while sugar coating Islam

When a program like IB can't justify its outrageous expense with stellar academic stats, the sucker school board that bought the program(me) in the first place goes out of its way to downplay and hide the real cost of IB.

In Incline Village, Nevada, residents have been fighting a forced IB takeover of its schools K-12, by a small band of IB supporters and a few zealous administrators. This battle has been going on for over a year. The large Washoe County SD already has an IB magnet in its Wooster HS. One involved Dad of 4 has been leading the charge against IB and spent many hours FOILing documents. The issue has now come to a head as the private pro-IB fundraising group failed to come close to its promised goal and the Superintendent has publicly announced IB at the elementary and MS will be "delayed", but they are going ahead with the HS. The following is an LTE from one of the teachers on the original Task Force who pushed IB over all other options in which she states that the cost of IB in Wooster is only $15,000 a year:

http://www.tahoebonanza.com/article/20110119/NEWS/110119909/1061&ParentProfile=1050

Here is the .pdf obtained from WCSD (pg. 7) which clearly states that the cost of IB in Wooster for a single year is (I wish I could bold on this forum) .... $932,000 .... !!!!!

http://truthaboutib.com/images/Wooster.pdf

$15,000 vs. $932,000

Doesn't this sort of misrepresentation by a public employee constitute some sort of criminal fraud?

James Rugg
Change agents in education are determined to move collectivist programs into the system. These programs rob students of in depth academic understanding and the history of our country while promoting subservience to a single world concept. After 17 years of study and active participation in K12 education I have found that parents religiously support their schools with little understanding of the inner workings of the system. IB is just another of the many programs presented as "excellence in education" which shifts student learning away from knowledge based learning, national sovereignty and lowers the bar of social and cultural integrity. I ask any parent who believes in forwarding the progress of the American experiment to demand their schools move back to a knowledge based curriculum and reject the collectivist programs we now see nationally. It's the lease we can do for the future of our children.

True, you need to be informed, but not by one group that floods comment boards. Take the time to look at the REAL program and how it is running in many areas successfully.

The antiIB people assume that all parents/administrators and teacher are idiots and therefore, need to be bullied into rejecting the program. I believe these people are intelligent and able to research and make their own choices. This is why I don't call people child abusers and anti-American for doing what is best for their child. Really? Child abusers??

So you think a teacher is going to sit in a class and spew anti-American propaganda to their students? Really? If you think that little of the people who teach in your area, then you need to really re-evaluate your hiring process because IB or no IB, that's troublesome.

By the way, I checked. All but two of the text books used in our local IB program are the same ones used in the non-IB courses. The other two are "recommended" texts and are used as a secondary reference only. So much for text book claims.

On one hand you have a group who feel they need to push their thoughts down your throat and force you to choice. On the other hand you have people who feel everyone should make their own choices that are best for them. Gee, wonder which way I want my child to grow up to be?

Good luck to the parents/students of this area. I hope you find the best educational path for your children, no matter if it is IB or not. THAT is what is important.

Just another case of the East Hampton School District not really caring what it costs. They will only need to pay for 50% of it. The feeder districts will have to pay for the rest. True taxation without representation.

And more of the same of the administrators doing things to pad their resumes, "hey, look what I did at that school", so after they do their 2-4 years here in purgatory, they can move on to bigger and better.

They should try doing more with less. It is a concept that does actually work.

These comments by and large ARE NOT from East Hampton. Here, our students can barely pass the Regents exam, we are involved in a lawsuit that has cost taxpayers $2 million, and we are building an $80 million building instead of the $20 million we really needed. We must stop spending! A third of our kids are Latinos who can't read English! We need ESL teachers, not this scam program.

IB BEEN THERE mentioned this in passing, but I feel the full details should be shared. Please note the current date of the article. We are not dredging up "old news":

IB CEO in Hot Water

September 24, 2010 - Cost of applying to IB: $100,000+. Cost of running an IB program in a school per year: $200,000+. Jeffrey Beard, IB's Director General being accused of plagiarism? PRICELESS!

http://genevalunch.com/blog/2010/09/23/int-baccalaureate-boss-in-hot-water-over-speech/

The TES reports that while one of the toughest problems facing education boards today is plagiarism, “it has emerged that those running the boards do not always practise what they preach. Jeffrey Beard, the head of one of the world’s most respected assessment organizations—the International Baccalaureate (IB)—has been caught red-handed passing off someone else’s work as his own.”

The speech to which the TES refers, was given in early August by Beard to the Chautauqua Institute in New York, USA, which, the next day, issued a statement quoted by the TES saying that the speech “‘drew heavily upon and quoted extensively from a speech given earlier in the year by Sir Ken Robinson’” a British writer and speaker well known in education circles. The institute removed Beard’s speech from its web site, noting in its statement, cited by the TES, that Beard “neglected to cite his source or reveal the quotations for what they were. Yesterday’s speech was not original work.”

(cont.)

Jeffrey, Jeffrey, Jeffrey! And for this you get paid almost $500,000 a year?

http://www.peytonwolcott.com/International_Baccalaureate_Inc.html

IB students are well aware of IB's very strict regulations regarding plagiarism and collusion. Just ask Joey. His You Tube video, "IB - Capitalist, Elitist and Hypocritical" is a must see for anyone who wants to learn about the REAL IB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9u89HMtMwc

IB better develop a new Playbook. Their old one is getting stale.

http://truthaboutib.com/images/Upper_St_Clair.pdf

One final comment then I'm outta here ...... (talk amongst yourselves) ...... I just received word that Michelle Bachmann will be coming to NH soon and we would like to present this IB issue at the national level through the Tea Party Caucus. We are seeking legislation which prohibits the expenditure of U.S. taxdollars on the foreign, IB program(me). If you support this effort, please sign the petition below which will be presented to Congresswoman Bachmann.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/removeibfrompubliceducation/

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The joke is on the community that buys the lies of the IB's grandiose claims. Especially when the issue is slamming rote memory skills by acting like the IB has nothing to do with rote memory. What a horrible joke on the unknowing. This is the IB in a nut shell. Repetition to the point of incessant obsession. IB themes ARE the UN agendas ( do not take my word for it..go to the IBO website..see the IB Themes and Values schemes..then check out the UN agendas...aka Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, UN Declarations, etc-SEE how they are one in the same) If a student is in an IB school they will be hit with those UN agendas in EVERY IB class, no matter what the subject is, and no matter how unrelated those UN agendas are to that class subject. (continued)

Here is an example of what the IB does to promote the UN agendas. Let's say the IB wanted to promote cherries. The IB teachers are given the goal to incorporate the topic of "cherries" into every class discussion, into all testing materials, into all homework, and into all larger projects they do at home. In Math they will talk about how many cherries it takes to get a sum. In Science they will talk about the chemical composition of cherries. In PE they will climb cherry trees. In Music they will play songs about cherries. In history they will talk about the history of the cherry tree. In TOK they will ask if the cherries even exist? In foreign languages they will learn how to say cherries. In biology they will dissect cherries. You get the point. No matter what the class should have been about these IB teachers are trained to incorporate the UN agendas into every class. (continued)

Make no mistake...over the years they have carefully crafted this program to try and make sure that all of their nice sounding "IB Themes" will reel in the most unsuspecting of people. If the target is cherries for the UN then those IB kids will learn All about CHERRIES, all the time. It doesn't matter if the information about cherries is accurate or not because in the IB they also teach these kids there are no right or wrong answers for far too may critical subjects. Now insert "UN agendas" for the words "cherry and cherries" and see how this program is nothing but an indoctrination program. This program is not about giving these kids real skills via a true academic education..nor is it about ever giving them the tools needed for true critical thinking. All their answers must fit the UN agendas or they will fail. It's about shoving the UN agendas into all aspects of their lives in school and through incessant homework assignments to bring the UN agendas into their personal lives at home...with the end goal of hoping those kids will take on those UN agendas as their OWN when they are adults. (end)

Enhanced writing skills...yep I'll give IB that much credit. IB students write, and write, and write. It's a shame that all of those writing assignments did not make these kids true critical thinkers. Imagine the chagrin of those students when they failed a writing assignment and they failed because they did dare to use true critical thinking and that thinking was not the same as that of the UN? How could they ever become true critical thinkers when the IB demands they eat, sleep, and breath the UN agendas? The incessant writing demands of IB equate to no more then common techniques of behavior modification. IB writing assignments today are the modern day versions of Johnny writing on the chalk board "I will not throw spit balls" a hundred times. When a program is based on the psychological manipulations of human behavior and changing the thinking of a human we can expect no less.

IBMom, I know the IB inside and out. Let me ask you something...do you welcome another side of the IB for a community to have far more information to base their decisions on? Or do you think the only way the IB should be introduced to a new community is through IB talking heads who are paid to promote the IB? Don't you like to have a lot more information before you make crucial decisions on the education of your kid? In our community we were only given the information on the IB that the IBO provided via salaried Pro-IB representatives. Period...there were no speakers, or parents, or former IB students who had already experienced the program to give us ANY clue of what we were really getting our children into. Our students have since paid the price for that one sided Pro-IB information. 82% of our gifted children (that the IB was allowed to hand select for IB) failed to get the IB diploma last year. The only results consistent with this program is how it can damage the future of the brightest of our children. If ONLY our community would have heard ONE opposing view "before" those irreversible damages were done to many of our children here.

There really is no greater insult to the public then to get them to pay taxes for a program that is designed to turn their own kids against their country. No one is stopping the IBO or Pro-IB parents from starting their own private IB school. If a citizen wants a UN indoctrination for their kid so bad then let them foot the bill and hands off our taxes. If you believe in real "critical thinking" you will welcome sites like The Truth About IB. If you have facts on your side you will also easily refute the facts provided on that site. Careful here because you may need to sit down if you ever allow yourself to actually demand facts from the IBO to back up all those "elite and superior" claims they make about their program. They do not have the facts to back them up after years of being in our country. Results do matter to you don't they? Or are you okay with just parroting unfounded claims made by a group that stands to gain financially at the sacrifice of programs that will be cut to pay for this bloated waste of funds?

IBMom you are right to the extent that you claim the IB is not the same everywhere. Indeed, the "way" the materials are "presented" are very different teacher to teacher..much less school to school. Nonetheless, the "core themes" of those materials are always the same. Either way, this is the only area the IBO gives any leeway for teachers to use real creativity. Sad but true it is also the area where the IBO makes teachers think they actually have any control over their own class materials. Remember how I just noted that once the IBO sets an agenda the IB teachers are instructed to incorporate that agenda into "class discussions" homework, projects etal? Yep...no two teachers are going to present those "same agendas" the "same" way.

This is to expand on how IB teachers use "different approaches" to insert the "same UN agendas" into IB classes...I'll give IB teachers an A for creativity in the ways they will tell "personal" stories (in class) that contain the "theme of the targeted UN agenda" and for how they then will act like they were just messing around and letting the kids blow off class time. Unfortunately when they are messing with gifted kids those kids know how to recognize it when someone throws 'cherries" into their personal story and wow...lookie...our class materials/projects are also about "cherries". What are the odds? Other kids also learn quickly on how to play those teachers too. Thus a common phrase uttered by IB students is "I BS therefore IB." They know it doesn't matter if they learn any true academic skills...they only need to act like they believe whole heartedly in the treasonous UN agendas. I guess if we all wanted our kid to have the character of a slick used car salesperson the IB would indeed be the perfect program. Nonetheless, some of us want our kids to walk away truly prepared for higher education. Even the notion of calling the IB "college prep" is a fallacy. This program is preparation for future Pro-UN "global" citizens. Read your US Constitution and see how the IB mission statement is treasonous to the sovereignty of the US.

I am heartened to see so many parents interested in what the schools are teaching in your neighborhood! It is now more than a half a century since I became curious about such matters! You might want to see if things are different now, but I will call your attention to the findings of a Calif. Senate Committee examining textbooks then. You might recall the opening of UNESCO which says: "Since wars begin in the minds of men, it is in the minds of men the defenses of peace must be constructed." This was the slick glossy slogan coined from words of Clement Atlee, British socialist, and phrased by Archibald MacLeish who earlier had attempted to get the U.S. into the Spanish conflict on the side of the Soviet ergo Communist forces, and hired by FDR all the time he was saying he would not get U.S. sons into war, but paying MacLeish to write and promote American involvement! At all events, that slogan resulted in the disappearance of any references to the American Revolution which "brought forth on this
continent a new nation."

continued: The textbooks " featured patriotic episodes and they inspired our youth to be proud of America. Some of the treasured sayings of our great American patriots: "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country;" "I have not yet begun to fight.", "We have met the enemy and they are ours;Don't give up the ship!; Give me liberty or give me death!;"God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it." ( Webster). Plundering American history was accomplished by removing all the patriotic music, "America," "My Country tis of thee, Sweet Land of Liberty." Said or written because they would instill emotions in conflict with the current desires of professional educators who in 1950 declared the policy of American Education Fellowship statement of principles: 1. The reconstruction of the economic system in the direction of far greater justice and stability than at present; to be secured by whatever democratic planning and social controls developing experience shows to be necessary...2. The establishment of a genuine world order, an order in which the National sovereignty is subordinate to world affairs, in all crucial interests affecting peace and security; an order in which all national races and religions receive equal rights; an order in which world citizenship assumes at least equal status with national citizenship.

Continued: "Means: The advancement of these objectives requires educational leadership and experimentation in school administration. In curriculum change, in programs of community adult education....in collaboration with teachers from other lands....." Much of their writing sounds as if the United States has existed in a vacuum rather than sharing its wealth with most of the nations of the world! The national debt is where it is in part, at least, because of foreign aid begun after WWII which continues to this day despite its astronomical elevation and is never mentioned in any discussions of cutbacks! I recall in 1954 giving a talk in which I referenced the 117 billion dollar gifted already and outstanding since WWII. I haven't kept track since but at that time everyone of the recipient nations had voted against us in the U.N. 76 times! And as far as I can see, continue to do so! Yet they continue to bite the hand that feeds them and the drive for subordinating the United States into a motley crowd of nations who have little or nothing in common with us --except greenbacks which are now virtually worthless! That is what UNESCO sought, the leveling of all mankind, and has almost achieved.

Gene Birkeland, your historical information is both fascinating and very alarming at the same time. Alarming because it rings far too close to the truth of what the IB represents. I am so frustrated because of knowing what I do about the IB and then I see the IBO is using the same exact methods of deceptions to try and weasel their way into yet another unsuspecting community. I can only imagine how patient you must be in real life to know what you have known about this group and yet for half a century you have waited for more of our citizens to wake up. I read your words about UNESCO and they could be taken right out of the IB playbook. I am convinced now I need to get your book. But something tells me I am going to be further unnerved when I see even more proof that the steady infiltration of our country by this treasonous group has been in the making for decades. It's hard to deny it when they are going after the same exact goals today. Starting with the indoctrination of children in our own schools no less.

BREAKING NEWS!

The American Legion, national headquarters, officially opposes IB:

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Novak, Michael <mnovak@legion.org> wrote:
Dear Comrade White,

Thank you for contacting The American Legion National Headquarters.

We appreciate your effort to bring this International Baccalaureate Program to our attention. In fact, the national organization is on record of our opposition to just this sort of attack on the U.S. education system. Resolution No. 31 (NEC October 14-15, 1992) states The American Legion Policy on Education. Specifically: "A major result of our educational process must be to provide people with the finest training in the world in basic skills of communication, and in knowledge which will enable individuals to think for themselves, to reason with facts, to comprehend with understanding."

We strongly encourage Departments to embrace the mandates stated by this resolution, and work with their state Department of Education to incorporate solid instruction in American History, civics, English, mathematics and science in their schools.

Sincerely,
Michael Novak

Michael A. Novak, Assistant Director
Americanism and Children &Youth Division
The American Legion National Headquarters
P.O. Box 1055
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206

OH PLEASE LOUISE. Well, YOU'VE CONVINCED ME! tHE Minutemen and Minutewomen and the John Birchers among other right wingnuts are now joined by an American Legion National appartchik spreading the news that the U.N. is a commie plot. UNESCO is run by the KGB and the Vatican, in cahoots with the Chinese Red Army are sending Mexicans into NY State in order to annex it to Mexico, along with the Western States, the Atlazan. See: http://www.reformation.org/smokescreen.html You've forgot to mention that IB grads have been brainwashed into eating their parents by agents from UNESCO, an IB front run by IB grads from LOocust Valley. Eating patriotic American parents is one of the reasons for youth obesity. IB grads are scouring the world as you read this to snatch unawares high school grads. The East Hampton principal is an IB agent. His assistant is a KGB operative! Oh Lisa who is Gene who is Gail who is informedIBparent, thank you, we are indebted to you, whatever name you go by.

Hey Mo -
Do you even know what an apparatchik (not an "appartchik") is?
No? I didn't think so.

Lisa and friends: I laughed when I read this "rant" because, of course, that is what it is, and proves that what the anti-IBers are saying about the program is true! It produces individuals who are unable to think!

TOK takes care of that!

"And I am proud to be from a very liberal left. I am DEFINITELY anti-Tea Party and all it stands for." ~ Gail Simons

Wow.

You're anti the U.S. Constitution?
You're anti freedom?
You're anti-limited government?
You're anti-free speech?
You're anti-freedom of religion?
You're anti-family?
You're anti-God?
You're anti-equality?
You're anti-liberty?
You're anti-taxation with representation?
You're anti-balanced budget?
You're anti-lower taxes?
You're anti-national sovereignty?
You're anti-American?

IB needs you, Gail. I sure hope you're not the E. Hampton PTA President.

Thanks for reporting, Louis. Obviously lots more to understand on this topic. We should all do our own digging and learn as much more as we can on this.

HOLD THE PRESS!!!!

Louis -

I JUST looked at the 2nd photo accompanying this article. HOLY COW!!!! This Principal has already MADE APPLICATION to IBO and spent taxdollars on IB teacher training!!!!!! How was this done without Board of Education approval?

That means E. Hampton has already committed/spent over $50,000 on IB already!

Very cute with the "How does IB Fit" spin. That wouldn't have been a re-tooling based on Incline Village's petition which stated "IB is NOT a good FIT for Incline", would it?

Also note point #5 - AP courses will be decreased.

That's the only TRUTH in Principal Fine's little Power Point. And what's with the windmill? Who does he fancy himself? Don Quioxte?

Great job on taking that photo, Louis! I apologize for being slow to catch that ...... paydirt. ;-)

Now, if you have a little time on your hands, may I respectfully request that you FOIL:

1. A copy of the district's "feasibility study" which was supposed to be done in the Consideration Phase.
2. Application A to IBO
3. copies of Purchase Orders paid to IB and travel agencies
4. Any inter-office e-mails/memos between the Superintendent, Principal Fine, members of the BoE and IB or relating to the approval of funding application to IB.

This is how they sneak it in the back door and then they cross their fingers and pray I won't catch them at it!

Bad boy, Principal Fine.

Dear Editor Taylor V,

Please give Louis a raise. ;-)

Patricia Hope,

My apologies for my ignorance of the district's logo. However, I would think if you are a resident, you would be rather outraged that your Principal had expended tens of thousands of dollars on a program that has not yet received Board approval. The Quixote reference is apropos in this case and doesn't demean me ....

"One of the most famous stories in the book is Don Quixote's fight with the windmills. He sees some windmills and thinks they are giants. When he rides to fight with them, he is knocked off his horse. Sancho tells him they are only windmills, but Don Quixote does not believe him. He is sure a magician changed the giants into windmills to hurt him."

Ms. McLaughlin, Principal Fine did not spend East Hampton District money on the IB program - that piece of the program was done over five years ago when someone else was principal. Mr. Fine has been the principal only since September, 2010.

Patricia,

What were the reasons for abandoning the IB application over five years ago? Financial? Did you have the same Board of Education Trustees five years ago? The quotes reported in this article make it sound like the district would have to start over again from ground zero, including getting new approval to move ahead.

I'm just warning the parents and taxpayers to pay attention to detail and most importantly, analyze administrator's words carefully. WORDS MATTER. Point # 1 on that PP slide:

1. Provides a focus on the development of acquisition, understanding and transfer of knowledge.
(English translation: teaching and learning)

2. Standardized curriculum demands Best Practice. (what standardized curriculum? IB only provides "frameworks". You should look for an additional line in the budget for approx. $50,000 for "curriculum writing" as IB courses in many instances do not meet NYS standards for graduation and must be "adjusted". For this work, teachers must be compensated)

4. Trickle down effect - that's for sure - just like a leak in the roof results in mold in the basement. IB dumbs down your overall academics and yes, this trickles down, along with its methods of indoctrination.

In Ozark, MO, the Superintendent and School Board voted to discuss and make application to IB all in one night without any parental or staff input. The Jr. ROTC instructor from that district is the fine gentleman who obtained the statement from the American Legion.

EXCLUSIVE!

First time published on the Internet:

http://truthaboutib.com/unescogreatestdanger.html

As a former teacher of IB and opponent I have a few observations to make:
1. As usual IB proponents do not deal with the issues, but rather resort to personal attacks against the opposition. See above from MoNeill: "tHE Minutemen and Minutewomen and the John Birchers among other right wingnuts are now joined by an American Legion National appartchik spreading the news that the U.N. is a commie plot."
2. IB is expensive--Lisa has forgotten to include the fact that additional staff must be hired to manage the program (IB Coordinator) in order to meet the IBO requirements. Cost--with benefits sometimes more than $100,000 per year.
3. IB is disruptive--High school schedules are manipulated to accommodate IB students schedules since course are mandated to be offered, many, unlike standard curriculum, are two years on length, and often class sizes are very small due to the fact that IB is not always popular.
4. Many schools end up teaching AP course with IB course in the same classroom. Some students enroll as AP students and some as IB students. What happens is that neither course can be taught properly and so they both suffer. In our very elite school district in Western PA we have seen a substantial drop in student outcome for both programs. It is sad.
To Be Continued

Continued:
5. IB creates divisiveness in a community. Helicopter parents who are convinced by slick marketing that their Johnny or Jane will be deprived of the opportunity to become brilliant, creative thinkers if denied IB will fight tooth and nail to have it. They will use all methods including personal attacks (see above) threats to teachers to keep their mouths shut, lawsuits
see Incline Village PPT on TAIB website http://truthaboutib.com/usschooldisputes/ibininclinevillagenv.html and see ACLU lawsuit at http://truthaboutib.com/usschooldisputes/ibinupperstclairpa.html
For some reason though people are still convinced that it is the only way for a school district to teach students to be "creative thinkers" or "globally minded". This is hogwash. IB does not have a corner on the market of good teaching. They are doing nothing more than using good teaching methods...methods that have been known about and used in schools all over the country for years...education 101.
Money spent on IB is a waste. My recommendation:
1. Use the money to review and improve the existing curriculum including writing, reading, and critical analyses.
2. Institute a rigorous teacher evaluation process that identifies and rewards good practice
3. Institute a terrific cooperative program with local colleges and universities where advanced students can enroll in real college courses.
4. Stop listening to the slick salesmen from Geneva. They just want your money and your minds.

Thank you, thank you, thank you......teachers who weigh in are as important as the parents.
Your insights and experience are really the foundation that makes parents aware....helicoper parents.....doesn't work.....Velcro parents maybe....currently I have decided that a parent has to be a Skin Graft Parent to run interference for their children. So scary that some administrators are blinded into IB by looking at themselves in the mirror too much.....and not for good reason...and they already have their feet in their next job hunt so they aren't ever fully aware
of the ravages, lies and deceptions of these people.....stop paying IB.....pay the teachers.

On the issue of being so concerned about "global issues" our citizens need to be focusing on our country and the current state we are in right now. While our schools, the press, and our government has forced the "global vision" upon us we are losing our critical core infrastructure that gave our country it's freedom from being invaded and it's freedom from becoming so financially dependent upon another country that our freedoms become the sacrifice. It is clear that after years of incremental steps of inserting the UN agendas into our country that many of our citizens have forgotten what happens to a country when they cede their rights, land, and resources to a foreign power? What happens to their freedoms if a new 'global" power does not afford them the same rights they had under their independent sovereign power? We can be competitive on the global market without ceding our rights and without taking on the politics, religion, or culture of anther country as our own. Just as our students can learn about "global issues" without taking them on as their own at the sacrifice of their own country.That is a defining difference between the foreign made IB and the American made AP.

Apologies to Lisa. I read through this blog very quickly and missed your point about added personnel. That plus the never-ending training, represents one of the biggest costs in dollars of this IB Programme.

I just took a look at East Hampton's NYS Report Card. I happen to be a fan of this requirement of our public schools which became a nationwide mandate for accountability under NCLB.

https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc/2009/e3/CIR-2009-580301020002.pdf

Overall, EHHS does very well with students passing the NYS Regents exams. Where EHHS appears to be falling down is in the area of "mastery" (85 or higher), as well as only 45% of the students attaining the Advanced Regents Diploma. The Regents is a pretty basic standard of measurement for subject knowledge. Wouldn't it be a far more reasonable and less expensive goal for EHHS to strive for at least 90% passage of the Regents with an 85 or higher and 80% Advanced Regents Diplomas - instead of IB?

You also have a 22% turnover rate for teachers of less than 5 years. That's high.

Patricia,

With all due respect, the above is clearly a NYS link. Additionally, Regents exams are exclusive to NY and are not offered in MA.

Lisa, when I first went to your link it said Easthampton, Mass. True.

I have the link you posted printed out: http://www.easthampton.k12.ma.us/files/853528/Easthampton%20School%20District%20AYP%202009.pdf.

Easthampton, Mass.

You changed the original link.

Patricia,

Also, since you are obviously still reading these messages, would you please respond to my questions from Wednesday?

"What were the reasons for abandoning the IB application over five years ago? Financial? Did you have the same Board of Education Trustees five years ago?"

Hats off to the Patriots in Washoe County, Nevada!

THIS is what it comes to after a year of trying to force IB into Incline Village schools:

http://www.fixwashoeschools.com/secretmeetings.mp3

This will air on 61 radio spots beginning Monday.

Stop IB in East Hampton NOW!